but they're ok on dry. I went through two sets though quite quickly and I don't push them hard. They're supposed to have a treadwear rating of like 280 or something .... but they didn't last that long. Wet traction is okay - any frozen precipitation at all will render your car useless if you have those tires. I've got the Sumitomo HTR+ now and they are much better for about the same money. Of course, I don't know if they make them in your size of not (I've got aftermarket wheels).